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ujwal
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hey,
I'm exploring the modes right now and i wanted some compositions to analyze which would give me an idea as to how the modes are actually applied in compositions....can anyone suggest some songs which are based on specific modes?....it would be of great help....
Any links/resources/tips regarding the modes would also be appreciated...
thanks...
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Daniel
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Hi,
Frank Gambale uses modes in his songs and also has written method books about modes and how to use them. Check youtube for vids, he improvises there in many modes.
Joe Satriani also uses modes a lot, check out his book Guitar Secrets, or his songs. He often uses lydian mode, like in the "Flying in a blue dream".
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MDC
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Also try gettin your hands on a copy back issiue'soff total guitar or guitar tech's. There's always stuff in there regardin the scales & modes in the tab songs.
Also have thought about gettin a line6 guitarport for the online lessons etc's.
later martyn
PS it's hard to nail this question when you've not listed the stuff your into music wise.
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ujwal
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I got a book by Frank Gambale..."Improvisation made easier"...would check it out....
well, I listen to all sorts of music, though I'm more inclined towards blues and acoustic stuff....
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MDC
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try gettin some off the RGT books in the acoustic grades, (I'm doin 1 intail stage very soon) + grade 1 later this year prob.
They also do a good series on playing styles including a blues 1., do you also play slide guitar? I've also just got back into this type off music.
I hope this more help to you.
Martyn
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Total Posts: 492 | Joined May 2002 | Posted on: 9:14 am on May 22, 2008 | IP
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IronMan
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Here are some examples that might be helpful:
Ionian Mode (Natural Major):
most of National Anthems, Van Halen - "Jump" (C), Joe Satriani - "Always with You, Always with me" (or vice-versa?), B
Dorian Mode:
Tony Macalpine - "Isis" - main lead (Bm)
Phrygian Mode (minor):
Metallica - "Whenver I May Roam" - intro, main riff (Em)
Lydian Mode:
Joe Satriani - "Flying in a Blue Dream" (C), "Time Machine" (D)
Mixolydian Mode:
D.Lee Roth (with Steve Vai) - "Living in Paradise" - intro, A
STEELHEART - "Everybody Loves Eileen" (Ab)
Aeolian Mode (Natural Minor):
too many to mention )
Locrian Mode:
Rarely used in its pure form, since the tonal chord is half-diminished (b5b7 minor chord). In real practice, it is generally a Natural/Phrygian minor with a flatted fifth/blues tone added: check out the "Painkiller" by Judas Priest, Metallica's "Black Album" and most of thrash metal.
(Edited by IronMan at 9:40 pm on May 27, 2008)
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ujwal
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thanks a lot guys....also, what is the relation between chords and modes...as in, which chord fits with which mode....i believe there is a certain theory behind this as well...could someone explain that..
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IronMan
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hmmm.. got your point, and I'll try to set it forth as I see it. Let's think logical. So far, we will look into the MAJOR modes (Ionian, lydian, mixolydian) and SOME of major chords/chord types, characteristic (or not) of this Modes.
The "core" basic tones of a chord are odd tones (1-3-5-7). If we go up to the 7th, we might talk about the Ionian and Mixolydian, since the 7th tone is what makes them different. Ionian Mode has a major 7th, hence the tonal chord might by 7M or maj7. On the other hand, the typical "Mixolydian" major chord is what we know by a "dominant seventh" chord (7, b7). Thus, in the key of C, the typical Ionian tonal chord would be Cmaj7, but not C7. On the contrary, if we are in the key of C Mixolydian, the Cmaj7 tonal chord would not "fit in", since it doesn't have a major seventh. Quite logical, isn't it.
Now the Lydian mode... What makes it sound Lydian? the #4 tone. Hence, the tonal chord can include this distinctive note, and the chord would be what we know by "add11+" major chord. This chord, in turn, cant be used in the 1st tone of both Ionian and Mixolydian. If we go back to the 7th tone, we should remember, that the Lydian Mode has a major 7th. Hence, the tonal chord CAN be maj7 major chord.
TO SUM UP:
maj7 7 (aka b7) add11+
Ionian + - -
Lydian + - +
Mixolydian - + -
Another thing that we might touch upon is the "suspended" type of chords (sus2/sus4) that are frequently used in today's music. We know that in case of sus. chords we have the 3rd replaced by either a major 2nd or a perfect 4th respectively. ALL the 3 major modes HAVE a major 2nd tone. Therefore, the sus2 chord CAN be used within the tonic of all these modes. However, the sus4 CAN'T be used as the tonic of Lydian Major and we know why. Instead we would take the "add11+(no 3)".
THE BOTTOM LINE:
sus2 sus4 add11+(no3)
Ionian + + -
Lydian + - +
Myxolydian + + -
Hopefully, this might shed some light on your question.
P.S. All the above is merely as far as the music THEORY goes. There are no rules that restrict our creativity to choose from the above chords. It's up to you whether you stick to a specific Scale/Mode using ONLY the notes within this scale, or do u set you imagination free to be a versatile and progressive musician.
(Edited by IronMan at 3:13 am on June 12, 2008)
(Edited by IronMan at 3:17 am on June 12, 2008)
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