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Goroner
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Hi i want to ask is it normal that some days i feel like i cant play guitar like im beginer and some days i feel so furious in playing and it goes realy easy i wonder what is the cause of this.. i play everyday nearly 3-5h per day sometimes even more i do practice some tehnique staff but i play my riffs too and practice some songs i cant quit well play..
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Total Posts: 19 | Joined Aug. 2009 | Posted on: 12:52 pm on Sep. 17, 2010 | IP
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Wicked Edge
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It means you have no ability, no talent, no predisposition to playing an instrument. Spend your time on more worthwhile pursuits.
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Total Posts: 134 | Joined May 2001 | Posted on: 12:40 pm on Oct. 17, 2010 | IP
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progmetal
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Real helpful advise there Wicked Edge!
Goroner,
One thing you should do is sign up for Troy's free digital magazine. If you sign up quick you can get the first copy where I do an article with advise on how to practice.
You basically need to figure out your main goals and build a practice routine around that. Don't waste time on random things that have nothing to do with your goals. Yes it's a good thing to work on finger picking techniques but if your main goal is to work on shredding this won't help you as much as working on something like sweeping or three note per sting scales.
Some days will be better then others but if there are alot of bad days then you need to examine your practice routine and also how you are practicing. Don't forget to practice slow and clean at first. Then slowly build up speed! Otherwise you will just play sloppy on a continues basis. Break out that metronome and start marking down your bpm. You'll be able to gauge your progress accurately over the upcoming weeks, months etc...
If you have an occasional bad day then don't worry about it! We all get them. The concentration level is just not there some days. There is nothing wrong with taking a day off occasionally to recharge.
Again there is some great stuff in Troy's magazine! You should sign up for it!
Don Parkhurst jr
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Total Posts: 143 | Joined July 2008 | Posted on: 6:12 pm on Oct. 17, 2010 | IP
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kre8tor
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Hey never mind the first negative comment, some people can be a-holes. I get like that myself from time to time. I bet you listen to some real complex stuff, huh? Try this: record some of your riffs, dont listen to them for a while and come back to them. You'll probably be suprised at how good they sound. Maybe if you live near any other guitarist or any other musician try jamming with them and you'll notice that your better than you think. Like the other guy said above just focus your approach a little more and you'll see some improvement. If you can afford it maybe take a guitar lesson even if its just once or twice a month, guitar teachers are great help.
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Total Posts: 14 | Joined July 2010 | Posted on: 4:35 am on Oct. 18, 2010 | IP
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Wicked Edge
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I was being truthful. It's obvious to anyone who knows anything about acquiring skills and/or guitar playing.
If you practice so long and fail to get demonstrably better then it's time to quit and do something else.
Telling the truth - that someone may not want to hear - is not being negative.
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Total Posts: 134 | Joined May 2001 | Posted on: 3:00 pm on Oct. 23, 2010 | IP
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SantoG3
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I think everybody has the right to tell someone else quit! you are not good enough at this or that on a PUBLIC forum, itīs just that we donīt HAVE to do it.
Thatīs a decision everyone has to do by his own, and itīs not of our business to tell people what to do, weīre not anybodyīs mother. The "Iīm just telling the truth" argument itīs just lame.
(Edited by SantoG3 at 9:09 pm on Oct. 23, 2010)
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Total Posts: 366 | Joined Sep. 2002 | Posted on: 5:19 pm on Oct. 23, 2010 | IP
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progmetal
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Quote: from Wicked Edge on 3:00 pm on Oct. 23, 2010
I was being truthful. It's obvious to anyone who knows anything about acquiring skills and/or guitar playing.
If you practice so long and fail to get demonstrably better then it's time to quit and do something else.
Telling the truth - that someone may not want to hear - is not being negative.
This in not being truthful. It's just plain a negative attack. You know nothing about his skill level or what problems he is having in his playing.
What he stated here in a nutsh*ll
is that sometimes he plays very well while other times it's like he is a beginner. The answer here is not to quit because he sucks.
I've been playing for somewhere around 30 yrs and have experienced this same type of thing at certain points in my journey of learning the instrument. Through my own trial and error experimenting and help from talented guitar teachers I worked through this hurdle.
As a professional guitar teacher I have come across the same thing with many of my students. I certainly do not tell them to give up and find something else to get into. I teach them how to reevaluate how and what they are practicing. They in turn start to climb and eventually rise over this and many other hurdles.
Giving up is the easy way out and if you follow this type of thinking you will not get anywhere in life period. Never mind playing guitar. Things in life can get difficult and this is when you should rise up and work hard to get through these difficult times. Not just give up!
Had I given up when I had a hard time with playing I would have quit a long time ago. Had I done that my job would not be playing and teaching the guitar. I love my job and had I given up when things got tough I would not be where I am now.
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Total Posts: 143 | Joined July 2008 | Posted on: 10:50 pm on Oct. 23, 2010 | IP
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Wicked Edge
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The "Iīm just telling the truth" argument itīs just lame.
No. It's the truth. I don't HAVE to tell him, I CAN tell him, and no one choice is right and no other is wrong. Thus not lame.
And as it was given in good spirit, to tell him the truth he needs to consider, and to save him wasting time and effort means it is in no way lame.
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Total Posts: 134 | Joined May 2001 | Posted on: 2:23 am on Oct. 30, 2010 | IP
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Wicked Edge
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This in not being truthful. It's just plain a negative attack. You know nothing about his skill level or what problems he is having in his playing. [/quote]
Yes it is true. And if I wanetd to attack, I'd be a lot more vitriolic and personal. Only a dickhead would see my commenst as an attack. They are impersonal and impartial; offered to anyone who stated the same; and to myself if I ever experienced the same.
The answer here is not to quit because he sucks.
Yes it is. There is no valid reason for it and anyone who struggles through for 30 years say, is just as bad. Perseverence is admirable but not always sensible nor vindicating.
I've been playing for somewhere around 30 yrs and have experienced this same type of thing at certain points in my journey of learning the instrument. Through my own trial and error experimenting and help from talented guitar teachers I worked through this hurdle.
See above.
As a professional guitar teacher I have come across the same thing with many of my students.
Do NOT make me laugh.
I certainly do not tell them to give up and find something else to get into.
Your choice. Partly because you're as blind as they are. Partly because you lack the willing to stop taking money off saps who will not improve.
Your approach indicates that anyone can succeed if they try - and that is a complete fallacy; a whimsy dreamt up to mislead people that everyone is equal in every discipline be it music, art, writing, sport or whatever.
It is a lie and it is misleading.
Giving up is the easy way out and if you follow this type of thinking you will not get anywhere in life period. Never mind playing guitar.
See above. And you will ALWAYS go far if you make the RIGHT decisions and cut your losses at appropriate times. Struggling on in LA, to be an actor, when you are not good enough is wrong. Selling yoru worldly possessions to chase your dream as a singer when you're as bad as those on the opening weeks of American Idol is wrong etc etc.
Things in life can get difficult and this is when you should rise up and work hard to get through these difficult times. Not just give up!
See above.
Had I done that my job would not be playing and teaching the guitar.
You are a joke and that you try and pass yourself off as a teacher is an insult to real pro teachers.
[quote]had I given up when things got tough I would not be where I am now.
Which is not very far.
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Total Posts: 134 | Joined May 2001 | Posted on: 2:44 am on Oct. 30, 2010 | IP
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VitaminG
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Wicked Edge, you sure jump to a lot of conclusions with little information. From the 5 lines of text in his post, you've determined that Goroner has no future playing guitar and should just quit.
At no point did he state that he had not progressed at all, but expressed his frustration at some days feeling like a beginner.
What is your definition of a worthwhile pursuit? What should Goroner be doing since you've decided that he has no ability, no talent & no predisposition to playing an instrument? Again, based on 5 lines of text in what seems to be a foreign language for him. You know for certain that he's not better suited to piano, a wind instrument, percussion?
Or, musical growth and progress aside, god forbid he should play the guitar just because he enjoys it. Whether he ever gets to a point where he can impress his friends, play in a band, attract casual sexual partners, teach others to play, release an album, make a good living from it is entirely besides the point.
You've assessed progmetal's progress in life and abilities as a guitar teacher from a couple of posts in this thread. Another impressive display of your perceptive abilities. And despite your efforts to respond to various points in his post, you've managed to refute very few of them. Some how you've leapt from persevering with a small problem on the guitar to selling all your worldly possessions to pursue a career as a singer. Do you quit any activity that you're not immediately awesome at?
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Total Posts: 760 | Joined Aug. 2001 | Posted on: 7:09 am on Nov. 8, 2010 | IP
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progmetal
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Hey Vitamin G. Don't even bother with this guy. He is one of those guys that you find over and over infecting boards. All they want to do is argue and belittle people. Why? Maybe immaturity or their own lack of ability? I don't really know nor do I care.
It's not people like me that get hurt here. I feel very confident in both my abilities as a player and even more as a good teacher. I make a living from it and my students stick with me for years. Also Troy seems confident enough to include me in his online magazine. That means much more to me then a troublemaker on a board.
Who this does hurt is the beginners or anybody else that truly needs help. They will be afraid to come forward with their questions from fear of being ridiculed. These types are the reason why some boards die off.
Goronor your best bet is to iqnore these types of ignorant comments. Take the good advice and keep at it!
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Total Posts: 143 | Joined July 2008 | Posted on: 8:43 am on Nov. 8, 2010 | IP
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